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 I was made bankrupt in 1991 and discharged in 1994
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Posted - 15 January 2017 :  11:25:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was made bankrupt in 1991 and discharged in 1994. I had four pensions at the time, 2 paid up and two which I continued to contribute to as assigned to a then current mortgage. I made the third paid up a year or two later, the fourth I have continued to contribute to to the present day. I was told at the time that these pensions wouldn't be touched - obviously incorrectly.

Solicitors acting for the OR (Gowling WWLG) have been in touch wanting to realise the pensions. They have indicated that I should get back the value of my contributions.

1) My main concern is that if the pensions (£ 1k, £7k, £7k and £ 40k) are crystalized, this will trigger the Money Purchase Annual Allowance and severely limit my ability to contribute to my current (recent) pension policy to £10k or possibly £4k p.a.

Is this likely to be the case?

I'm considering trying to buy out the OR's vested interest if this is true. However, if it isn't, I would probably be better offer putting the money into my current pension an obtaining tax relief on this.

2) Also, regarding the value of the contributions I have made since the BO, is there any precent as to how this might be valued? At a minimum, this would be the value of the contributions I think but the correct valuation ought to be based on the current value, less the number of units held at the date of the BO and vested in the OR times their current value...

3) Does anyone have experience of recent negotiations with the OR on a similar basis and best approach to dealing with this matter?


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Posted - 15 January 2017 :  17:27:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I'm surprised this has surfaced now as you are discharged and obviously didn't have an IPA or if you did it has now finished.

I actually have no idea about this but hopefully Lisa Thomas will pick up on it tomorrow.

The friend in my adversity I shall always cherish most. I can better trust those who helped to relieve the gloom of my dark hours than those who are so ready to enjoy with me the sunshine of my prosperity. – Ulysses S. Grant

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Lisa Thomas
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Posted - 17 January 2017 :  10:01:29  Show Profile  Visit Lisa Thomas's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi pensions were not exempted from Bankruptcy unless the Bankruptcy took place post 2000 or the pension was 'Unapproved'. I your case it sounds as if the pension was/is an asset of the Bankruptcy estate and you need to decide whether or not to buy out the O.R's interest in your pension.

I can't advise on this I'm afraid and would recommend you speak to a pensions specialist.

As a general rule of thumb we used to sell pension interests back to the Bankrupt for 3 years worth of annuities so it was acceptable by both sides but things have changed a lot since then.

Contact me on 01752 786800 or Lisa@nevilleco.co.uk
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